The Historic Adventist Are Encouraged to Run -
But They Cannot Hide

by Ed White

"But how do men fall into such error? By starting with false premises,

and then bringing everything to bear to prove the error true." TM 364.01

This little booklet will provide detailed documentation to establish the below fact:

"A lie, believed, practiced, becomes a truth to them." TM 363.04-364

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I attended a Seventh-day Adventist Historical gathering on 3/17/02 for Sabbath, Sabbath School, Church, and an afternoon service. A special speaker John Nicolici and his wife came up from Sacramento to give the day's program. Now 35 to 40 people were in attendance at this Southern Oregon meeting. Now the message that we heard, supposedly in the afternoon it was going to be on the Loud Cry Message, but it kind of got diverted before he arrived to that subject. But, I want to say this about their SDA message; it hasn't dimmed one iota from the same truths they presented during the Silver Lake meetings in the 1980s. The delivery system between this man and his wife is as powerful as any Historical gathering or even in the mainline church, their delivery system is as powerful & effective as you are going to find anywhere.

But why is it, that such few people attend these gatherings? Now stay with me to the end of this tape and you will have your answer. Now to begin, I had rather talk about a solution for Historical Adventism than the problem they are facing today, but I'll try and be brief and cover both. Now the Label on this tape, I'm not sure, as to the label to place on this tape, one such title would be, "Historic Adventists Are Encouraged To Run --But They Cannot Hide." The Historical Adventism as a fragmented/scattered group are chained, they absolutely have some chain-ankles on them. And the Mother Church is the one that puts those clasps on them and then hammered them shut. Now some of these leg-irons are attached more securely on some ministries than they are on others. Like the ones that have gone off to "Higher Education" like the Standish Brothers, now the leg-irons on them is a big heavy chain, hard to break. Then there are others that haven't gone off to the seminary, their leg irons may be just a cotton rope, and that thing can be cut in a hurry if present truth is not rejected. But the Historic gatherings will need to have a message [they do not now possess one] if they expect to have a part in giving the Loud Cry. But sad to say again, the Historical Seventh-day Adventist movement does not have a message! And I'm going to tell you why.

I'm going to read one statement here, and I'm not isolating any one particular ministry, as I could grab any book from the Historical Movement as they all say the same thing, verbatim! I could grab a John Osborne book years ago when he wrote on Revelation. I could grab Jan Marcussen's book, I could grab any of their books, or tapes, The Standish's, Vance Ferrell, it makes no difference. It just so happened that I grabbed Danny Vierra's book, because he copied word for word what Jan Marcussen has in print, Jan Marcussen has copied what somebody else has published etc. & etc. It all went back to what Haskell said, it all goes back to Uriah Smith's book, it is as though they are completely satisfied in leaning on one mans mind.

But the Historic SDA people are absolutely chained to this one statement right here, on page 23, of Danny Vierra's book, Is the Virgin Mary Dead or Alive. "As matter of fact the 1260 prophecy is mentioned seven times in Revelation and Daniel. There are not as some have supposed several 1260 day periods, there is only one. It is mentioned seven times because it is so very important. In Daniel 7:25, and in Daniel 12:7, as a time, two times and a half time, in Revelation 12:2, and 13:5 as 42 months. In Revelation 11:3 and Revelation 12:6, as one thousand two hundred and sixty days, and in Revelation 12:14 as a time, times, and a half. In Bible times there were 360 days to a calendar year, and if you multiply 360 times 3 1/2, you will come up with number 1260..."

Well anyway, it makes no difference which Historic gathering I read that from, because they all copied from one another, every single one of them. There is no truth whatsoever in linking all of these seven places in the Bible where the 1260 are found, to the years 538 to 1798.

Daniel 12 is a brand new ball game; the Pioneers had no business whatsoever in trying to make all these 7 places fit into one time frame. The pre 1844 pioneers were desperate, trying to use up every verse and every chapter of every book of the Bible to come to an end in 1844. William Miller was even preaching on Revelation 15 & 16 [7 last plagues] as being already fulfilled. They erroneously used up all of Daniel 12, they applied it to the past, and they then burned up Revelation 8 and 9. They thought they had to get those things in there to be fulfilled before 1844. They had no business whatsoever trying to interpret the 7 Trumpets of Revelation 8 & 9 and take the historian Gibbon account of these Bible chapters that apply to end time events.

Those people living back then were just prisoners of time, but not so with our generation. Historic Adventism you are not in the class to be labeled prisoners of time. You have arrived! Awake up! So if you are one of those that have chains around your ankles, and if you have gone off to the seminary, or you spent 25 years as Editor of the Review and Herald, your chains are a little heavier than the people who haven't gone to the seminary.

Somebody like Doug Bachelor, now he is still in the system; he is probably one of the biggest revenue gatherers that the church has. They don't like what he says, but he brings in the dollars, and that is all Laodicea understands, is dollars, dollars and cents.

Now the leg irons on him and the people who haven't gone to the world for their education, these chains are not quite as secure as the Standish's, or like someone that was trained to be the General Conference President for the Reformed Seventh-day Adventist Church. Now these erroneous ideas that were put in people's head years ago, many truly believe it to be true because they have believed it so long. And when anyone believes a lie long enough, it can become a truth to us. Now there is a SOP statement saying exactly that truth. In Testimonies to Ministers, about 363-364, it says. "A lie, believed, practiced, becomes a truth to them."

Now as you read this statement that I just read it to you from Danny Vierra's book, where he stated that all seven places in the Bible that the 1260 days are mentioned, they all apply to the same time, 538 to the year 1798. That is total deception, because all seven of them do not apply to the same time period. On close examination of Daniel 12, a non- surface Bible student will discover that not one word of that chapter can be applied to the past. I’d rather not to go into Daniel 12 just yet, but stay with me, we will get there. Now anyone that knows me, knows I would rather talk about Daniel 12 than have a fresh watermelon in the middle of July. But I want to talk to you about Revelation 10 and 11, and Daniel 12 in a future setting. Revelation 10 & 11 will unlock Daniel 12 and restore it to it's proper setting.

Now I know probably a red flag went up there when I mentioned Daniel 12 in a future setting, and when you mention Revelation 11 in the future, oh boy, you really get the Seminary personnel to come out of the woodwork after the "offender". But I'm here to give it to you like the Bible says it, in plain English. To lay some groundwork one needs to understand the Seven Trumpets to see when the Sixth Trumpet ends in Revelation 9: 21. And then it is just like God put a parenthesis there and inserted all of Revelation 10 and 11 up to verse 13, then 14 continues with the remainder of the 7 Trumpets. But I can't go into the 7 Trumpets right now, I would love to start at the first and continue through to the 7th. Other tapes of mine do exactly that.

Isn't it amazing that you never hear one word from the Historic gathering on certain subjects?

Why is it that they never say anything about the 7 Trumpets? They refuse to say anything about the Seven Seals; they refuse to say anything about the controversy between the great multitude and the 144,000. If they do get on the fringes of these important subjects, they always have to go back to what their Mother Church has taught them. They cannot be specific about anything; you cannot nail anybody down, everything just kind of floats with them. Now the main structure church, they are bold about the error they promote, I mean you can hear these evangelist, they will come right out and talk on the 7 Trumpets & 7 Seals with energy as they were trained to preach them straight from U. Smith & Co.

Now John Grosboll, he published an article say about 5 or 6 years ago on Daniel 12 in his Landmark magazine, but was this article his thoughts? Not at all, He allowed J.H. Waggoner to press his thoughts into our minds in 1996.

These thoughts that Grosboll & Waggoner was clinging to, were not theirs either, they belonged to men like Keith & Gibbon, people of the world. And I have heard Bob Trefz speak on Daniel 12, now when he arrived to this end times chapter you couldn't tell if he was on foot or horseback, he got into Daniel 12 and he became absolutely bewildered. On almost every visit to friends & relatives out would come Bob Trefz videos to try and change my Bible views. But back to Revelation 10 & 11 in a future setting; now in mainstream, historic, fringe, self supporting & etc Adventism, when you mention Revelation 10 to them they will say, "that was the Millerite Movement. That chapter is all in the past, there is nothing future about those words." Let me quote from the little booklet A Word to the Little Flock page 13:

"I conclude that there is not one second advent believer who will take the ground that all the prophecy of Joel quoted by Peter was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost. For there is not the least evidence that any part of it was then fulfilled, only that part which related to pouring out of the Holy Ghost. That is the only part, we cannot believe that the signs in the Sun and Moon and so forth, were seen on that day or that there were any having visions or dreaming among them at that exciting hour, for there is no proof of any such thing. A part of this prophecy was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, and all of it is to be fulfilled 'IN THE LAST DAYS SAYETH GOD'."

Now Revelation 10 is of this nature, so is Revelation 11, but not Daniel 12, for not one word can be applied to any past action, like in having a dual application. I could read you statements from the SOP until the cows come home concerning dual application, but not today, I'm not going to read very much, because I got new glasses today and they haven't really adjusted yet; I'm sorry, so I'll be talking off the top of my head, and forgive me, but you just bear with me, I've got a message here.

Now listen to what Ellen White says right here in Special Testimonies to Ministers, No. 7, page 53. "How little is the book of Revelation studied, it is a hidden mystery to the religious world." Now as I was setting in church yesterday for a number of hours, I didn't hear one quote out of the book of Revelation. And when Ellen White plainly tells us, she says, and now this is from memory I don't have my books here, but I had rather close my eyes and try to remember it anyway. It is in Testimonies Volume 8, page 302.01, it says: "The solemn messages that have been given in their order in the Revelation are to occupy the first place in the minds of God's people. Nothing else should engross our attention."

Now the book of Revelation is nowhere near as complicated as Revelation Seminars teachers make them out to be. I could take you through Revelation in a hurry, and these messages are given in their order. I don't want to get sidetracked here, I cannot do that; I would love to start right there at the seven different church conditions [not periods of time] in Rev. 2 & 3, and then God shows you the Throne Room in Chapter 4. The next message given 'in order" in chapters 5 & 6, heaven there explains about the 7 Seals, where 7 different generations of people are being judged. And then after they are judged and sealed, then there is a Judgment on the wicked that didn't measure up, beginning in Revelation 8: 6. But John the Revelator is delighted to tell us in chapter 7 of those that DID MEASURE UP! They are the sealed ones, the 144,000, and "a great multitude" which are the righteous dead from all ages. Those wicked that were judged lost under the 6th seal are the one crying for the rocks to fall on them in Revelation 6:16-17. Just as soon as the Sealing angel has the 144,000 living saints sealed, the four angels cease to hold and the 7 Last plagues begin immediately!

But I got to get back to the quote I was reading, sorry to get sidetracked. This is Ellen White's Special Testimonies to Ministers, "How little is the book of Revelation studied, it is a hidden mystery to the religious world and why? Because the events not pleasant for consideration are so faithfully traced by the prophetic pen. And the people who are in any way troubled about the matter, are soothed by their shepherds with the statement that the Revelation cannot be understood. But it is to be understood for it especially concerns us who are living in these last days, read the last chapter of Daniel carefully... Study Revelation in connection with Daniel, for history will be repeated." [SpTA07 53 & 55.01]

In Great Controversy page around pages 598-599, she says that we should not guess at anything. There is a chart and we are not to guess at it!

"It is not enough to have good intentions; it is not enough to do what a man thinks is right or what the minister tells him is right. His soul's salvation is at stake, and he should search the Scriptures for himself. However strong may be his convictions, however confident he may be that the minister knows what is truth, this is not his foundation. He has a chart pointing out every waymark on the heavenward-journey, and he ought not to guess at anything."

About 40 different quotes come to my mind to say right now, but let me get back to what I'm reading here. This is from Ellen White in a little book called Rolling Back the Reproach. "The prophecies of Daniel and John are to be understood." Now that means that you are not to guess at it. It is to be understood. "They interpret each other. They give to the world truths, which everyone should understand. These prophecies are to be a witness to the world, by their fulfillment in these last days they will explain themselves."

They do explain themselves; why if I was to open my Bible here and take you through Revelation 10, Jesus is standing there with one foot on the land and one on the sea, and he raises his hands to heaven and he cries with a loud voice. Why is it necessary to be pounded on the head to see this? Loud Cry, loud voice, and there is something that is associated with this Loud Cry, why it is the little book that Jesus has in His hand. It is Daniel 12, it is not the whole book of Daniel, and many people believe that the whole book of Daniel was seal up. Not so, the wise men used part of Daniel in order to find the year that Jesus would be born, they had their gifts ready to give to this young child, and they knew about the time he would be born from studying Daniel. Daniel 8 & 9. This is where it says until "Messiah the Prince" there will be so many weeks. & etc.

The whole book of Daniel was not sealed up, now I could go to 7A probably about page 971, she says that the portion that was sealed, is the portion in Daniel "in relation to time", this is Daniel 12 that was sealed. Not the whole book! ; Ellen White told us plainly in 1903, that Daniel 12 was not understood by the Seventh-day Adventist pioneers up to that time. " It is a warning that we need to understand before the end of time". Now 1798 is where many apply "the time of the end". But 105 years AFTER the 1798 date she said that Daniel 12 was not understood and the end of time was still FUTURE. Today's generation of believers needs to understand this chapter. The pioneers did not understand it. Haskell, U. Smith, James White did not understand it, it was sealed to that generation, they were prisoners to time. But it need not be for us, unless you allow another that you confide in to do your homework.

I believe the reason last day people don't understand Daniel 12, is because they don't read it. They do not realize that there is a conversation going on there between Daniel and Jesus. And Gabriel is there, he is one side of the river and Jesus is on the other. On the lip of the river as the Bible says, and there is a conversation going on. Daniel asked 2 important questions to Jesus. Jesus had previously told him, that there was going to be a time of trouble such as never was, and at that time Daniel's people were going to be delivered. Daniel's ears perked up, he wanted to know about this "time of trouble" & the special resurrection, and he wanted to know when his people were going to be delivered. You think Jesus is not going to answer a sincere question as to when? When the seven last plagues would end? Verses 1 & 2 tell that there is going to be a time of trouble such as never was. That is the time of trouble, the seven last plagues. When is it going to end? That is what Daniel asked.

Now the only reason that time was even considered in Daniel 12, was because Daniel asked Jesus about time. He says, "Oh my Lord, how long shall it be until the end of these wonders." Now what "wonders" was he talking about? Why it would be when the graves will open up, the special resurrection. Jesus just told Daniel that "many that sleep in the dust", that's what Daniel wanted to know, when's that resurrection going to occur, when are my people going to be delivered??? Jesus' has never once talked with a forked tongue, never! He is going to answer him and He does, and He tells him that it is going to be a time, times and a part. Now use your Bible margin, throw away all those Catholic Bibles, get your King James Bible out, tell John Grosboll to take his New King James version, and get a post hole digger and bury it. Because it destroys a portion of the Seventh-day Adventist message, he knows it. He is just trying to please somebody. Go back to solid ground, get a King James Bible with a margin, and look to see the question that Daniel asks of Jesus, "How long shall it be till the end of time?" Did I add some words there? I absolutely did not!

Look in Testimony to Ministers, page 114-115, "Twice Daniel inquired, How long shall it be to the end of time?" He didn't ask how long it would be to the time of the end, he wasn't talking about them puny years back there in 1798. He wanted to know when the special resurrection would occur and WHEN his people would be delivered. Jesus tells him, it is going to be a time, times, and a part, look in the margin. So Danny Vierra in his book, page 23, Vance Ferrell and all his publications, Jan Marcussen and his publications, John Grosboll and all of his printed deception, to apply Daniel 12 to the past, it will not fly! You got to get those leg irons off, go to the blacksmiths shop. Now some of these irons can't be cut off with just a cold chisel, some of these chains will require some oxygen, you need some acetylene, you need some real power to get those leg irons off, where you can run free.

Now after Daniel heard Jesus tell him, that it is going to be for a time, times and a part, Daniel says to him Oh my Lord, I've heard, but I don't understand, and Jesus comes right back and tells him again. He tells him exactly, now before he didn't give him a starting point, and Jesus is going to give him an answer in relation to what he asked. How very plain! But let me back away from Daniel 12 for a moment, you just request one of my audiotapes where I go through every verse of this chapter.

Let me read the Bible in Revelation 10, then to 7A. "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as were the sun, and his feet as a pillar of fire, and he had in his hand a little book open, and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot upon the earth, and he cried with a loud voice." How much plainer do you want it, "loud voice", Loud Cry, Latter Rain, Refreshing, and "when a lion roareth and when he had cried seven thunders uttered their voices". Now these silver tongue orators that are out there, they attempt to talk to you about the seven thunders, and try to apply this to the past and current events, are modern day deceivers. Let me tell you, the Bible says plainly, that the seven thunders occur after the loud cry is given, AFTER it says. And "after he cried with a loud voice, then the seven thunders uttered their voices".

I'd love to talk to you about the seven thunders, but I'm not going to do it just now, they are plain as the nose on your face. I may just touch on one of them right here, no I'm not going to do it just yet. Now, who is the mighty angel that stands there? It is the same "angel" [messenger/Jesus] in Revelation 18:1-3, that is who it is, and the same event is referred to in both passages, the Loud Cry of the third angel. He is clothed with a cloud, indicates that while Christ is in the person of the Holy Spirit, he is obscure, He comes down to direct the battle, there is a quote almost word for word saying exactly those words [DA 352.02] that the Holy Spirit will come down to direct the battle. His presence is obscured, in other words "clothed with a cloud". How very plain.

I'll grab 7A, right here on page 971.03, it says these words. "The mighty angel who instructed John was no less a personage than Jesus Christ. Setting his right foot on the sea and his left foot upon the dry land, shows the part which he is acting in the closing scenes of the great controversy with Satan." Doesn't that just warm your heart to know that it is the "closing scenes", not the Millerite movement? If some of these words in Revelation 10 applied to the Millerite movement, then only a portion of them, like Joel 2 applies to gives us an example. I could give you just scores of places where like in Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing, page 121, she says, "That this whole discourse [Matthew 24] more was written for our day than it was written for the disciples day." Revelation 10 has words that are pertinent to us today, with Jesus standing there. Let me get back to this quote. It says this "mighty angel that is standing there is Jesus, he is acting in the closing scenes of the controversy with Satan", that nails it down; it is the Loud Cry. It is the Revelation 18 angel, which Adventists - they do have their timing correct here.

Dear Adventist friend, don't you know that the First, Second and Third Angels Message is to be repeated? [RH 10/31/99] Now I haven't got time to go through the first, second and third angels messages, but if the first, second and third angels message are to be repeated, what was the first angels message that was given prior to 1843 and 1844? The second angels message - what was that? Come out of her my people. Now that message is going to go again, the first angel message will go again. And what was the main element in the first angel's message?

William Miller and all the other 200 or so preachers throughout Europe, they had a judgment hour message, they had an hour attached, October 22, 1844. You better get ready, there is a judgment hour attached to it. If the first angels message is to be repeated, there has to be a judgment hour mentioning. And I'm not talking about any time setting, don't go off and grab your wet blankets yet. You'll have plenty of time to run down that Rogue River with Pastor Lawrence Nelson and get them wool blankets from the army surplus sopping wet, and try to throw over everything I've said. But your effort to suppress will be of non-effect when it is time for this message from heaven to be scattered. Examine my teachings and all my audio tapes carefully, because I'll never mention to you even once about any time setting. I don't believe in it, it's not right for anyone to try and figure out "definite time" as a test for the Lord to return. But someday soon it will be a requirement for God's people to say something about time, so don't be scared off by these seminary trained surface readers from you revealing Bible truths you obtained by being on your knees asking for guidance.

Most Adventist as a group don't even realize that Jesus is not going to deliver one Seventh-day Adventist, not one that has ever used the name Seventh-day Adventist is Jesus going to deliver. Are you listening to me Seventh-day Adventist out there? Listen up! In 1846, April the 6th, Ellen White, her name was Ellen Harmon then, plainly told us that it is "a number of days" between the voice of God, which delivers every faithful Seventh-day Adventist until the Lord Jesus is seen in the sky to raise the righteous dead from day one to the year of 1844. God the Father will raise those who died in the faith this side of 1844. The 144,000 will know EXACTLY the very "day and the hour" when they hear what the Father tells them. Then they in turn will tell the risen saints that this "number of days" is 45 days for them to be on the earth in a glorified body. When you understand Daniel 12 correctly, you will find out that these 45 days between the voice of God and the Second Coming of Jesus, is when the living saints have the wicked worshiping at their feet. If you want to know exactly who these people are that are lost and now worshipping in vain, read page 12 of A Word To The Little Flock.

OK now, get your sledgehammer right quick and grab this tape and to hit it. Some people will be inclined to do that, but hold on, anybody that has any common sense, just hold on a little bit. This quote from Inspiration, to anyone who will listen: "The mighty angel who instructed John was no less a personage than Jesus Christ. Setting His right foot on the sea, and His left upon the dry land, shows the part which He is acting in the closing scenes of the great controversy with Satan. This position denotes His supreme power and authority over the whole earth. The controversy has waxed stronger and more determined from age to age, and will continue to do so, to the concluding scenes when the masterly working of the powers of darkness shall reach their height. Satan, united with evil men, will deceive the whole world and the churches who receive not the love of the truth. But the mighty angel demands attention. He cries with a loud voice. He is to show the power and authority of His voice to those who have united with Satan to oppose the truth." He cries with "a loud voice". How much plainer does it need to be for Historic Seventh-day Adventists? "a loud voice" Why that is Revelation 10 "the LOUD CRY", how very plain!

Now did I confuse anybody back there, have you had time to let this jell a little bit in your mind, about what I said about Jesus not delivering one Seventh-day Adventist? That is exactly the truth, when God the Father speaks from His Throne in heaven, and He says, "It is done." He utters these words at the beginning of the Seventh Trumpet, the Seventh Plague; we could go in Revelation 10, and if I had my Bible in here I could read it to you. In Revelation 10, it tells you plainly when the "mystery of God is finished", is when the seventh trumpet is sounded, very early as it begins to sound, the mystery of God is finished is in the words found in verse 7. The mystery of God is the plan of salvation. Please don't pay any attention to what Ty Gibson and James Rafferty have suggested about this "mystery of God". Their attempt to paint a picture of end time events by reading all these beautiful words of Scripture that don't even apply to the correct timing at all. Then they misapply God’s Word, just scattering confusion that is all they are doing as they scatter their leaning on man studies. The "mystery of God" is the plan of salvation; it is all over with when God the Father says, "It is done."

God the Father's words will come on His schedule alone, rolling down through the open space in Orion, to knock down every building and every wall that man has ever constructed. The mighty earthquake occurs at that time; read about it in Great Controversy, she spells it out, seaports are being swallowed up, islands are disappearing, mountain chains are being thrown up by their roots and caste into the sea. God the Father says, "It is done." And at that point in time everybody who died in the faith as a Seventh-day Adventist, since 1844 will come to life. I don't think they adopted the name SDA until 1863, so there will be some people there awakening that never heard the name "Seventh-Day Adventist. But anybody that has ever used this name Seventh-day Adventist, they will not be delivered by Jesus second coming. So get that thing out of your craw, that's been placed there by the Laodicean Seventh-day Adventist surface readers. Because you will not be delivered by Jesus second coming, you are going to be delivered by the Voice of God and you will have a glorified body for 45 days, before Jesus even gets on the cloud to leave heaven. Now will we know when Jesus comes? We certainly will. We will know the exact day and hour when He will appear, why will we know? Because God the Father has told us, He announces the day and hour; that will be one of the 7 Thunders.

What is the first thunder? The first thunder is "It is done" as the words come rolling through the earth like peals of loudest thunder. God the Father pauses between sentences, then another thunder from His lips comes rolling through the earth. One of the thunders He will deliver the everlasting covenant with His people. Another thunder will be when He announces the day and hour that Jesus will return. So for surface reading SDA preachers, will they now label the Father a "time setter" and say He is Someone that is keeping secrets in heaven from his Son, His angels and His people on earth? No, God revealeth these things to His servants, but only the ones that will walk in the light as He provides it.

"It is impossible to give any idea of the experience of the people of God who will be alive on the earth when past woes and celestial glory will be blended. They will walk in the light proceeding from the throne of God. By the means of the angels there will be constant communication between heaven and earth." [Unpublished Manuscripts, Volume 2, p. 157.03]; [p. 569.06, 1904 MS].

Now much additional information is in Early Writings & the 1858 Great Controversy; just blow the dust off that book, read it, follow it.

Next we will go through Revelation 11, verse by verse in a future setting, but before we go there let me ask a question to the Historic Adventist as to why your ministers/speakers never say a word concerning the 7 Trumpets, or the 7 Seals, or the 144,000 vs. the great multitude? It seems, their primary job is to steal sheep from one another's group with their scattered/fragmented sheep wandering all over the place. Just like the Reformed Seventh-day Adventist, that is all they do, try and steal sheep from one another's fringe group. They have no schools or mission program whatsoever, just an abundance of tithe money for their leadership to fly all over the world fine tuning their "sheep stealing" skills. I personally believe the reason the above different ministries are so silent on the 7 Trumpets/Seals & etc. is because it is too controversial for them. They refuse any accountability to those that hold God Word in their hand. Their mother church has trained them well.

Revelation 11, now I haven't even read this chapter myself for probably a month and a half, so it is going to be brand new to me again. But I read Revelation 11 often just the way the Prophet tells me to read this chapter she says read every verse of Revelation 11, it is "yet to take place". LDE 95. Now as I read this chapter in a future setting you decide if it doesn't make perfect sense to you as it does to me.

Remember that the Ellen White quote mentioned earlier to not "guess at anything", and now to Testimony to Ministers, page 337.01, "How dare they advance ideas when they do not know certainly whence they came, or that they are the truth?" Now that applies to me - I don't dare advance any ideas unless I know where it came from. If I don't know what I'm talking about, I keep my mouth shut. But I'm going to go through Revelation 11 and read it in the order that Heaven placed it, not from mans wisdom that always leaves you in a sickly state.

"And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, 'Rise and measure the Temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein."

Now doesn't the Investigative Judgment begin first with the house of God? And then those standing at the altar are the ministers, aren't they to be judged next? Then comes the "worshipers therein", why you have to be alive to be worshiping. Now remember the judgment begins with the dead people in 1844. And the top of the page Great Controversy 483.01, it says, "As the books of record are opened in the judgment, the lives of all those who profess faith in Jesus come in review."

If you have never professed belief in God, your name is not even considered during this Investigative Judgment, you have to wait for anther 1000 years for your name to come up to be judged. Jesus will conduct that judgment with the risen saints in heaven. But if you have professed the name of Christ, then your name is in process right now, because Jesus is going to come and bring His "reward with him" according to this method. "Every name is mentioned, every case closely investigated. Names are accepted, names rejected. When any have sins remaining upon the books of record, unrepented of and unforgiven, their names will be blotted out of the book of life, and the record of their good deeds will be erased from the book of God's remembrance. The Lord declared to Moses: "Whosoever hath sinned against Me, him will I blot out of My book." Exodus 32:33. And says the prophet Ezekiel: "When the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, . . . all his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned." Ezekiel 18:24. GC 483.

The reason why is there so many angels around the throne there in Revelation 5 & 6, is because they are the record keeping angels that must testify before this heavenly tribunal.

But Adventism still hasn't discovered that the Seven Seals is the Investigative Judgment. No wonder Ford has run havoc through the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The Adventist correctly teaches of the investigative judgment, but they can't even find where it is in Revelation. That is one of the plainest subjects found in Revelation 5 & 6 that Adventism still refuse to study out for themselves. They need to distance themselves from U. Smith/Gibbon & company, because no one "can act a part in the closing scenes" of this earth history if they don't understand these chapters correctly. [See 9T 267.01]

The supreme nonsense that is taught on the 7 Seals in the Revelation Seminars is just a rabbit trail safari. Get out and away from that mindset, where there is stubble & fungus.

But back to Revelation 11. In 1844 when the judgment began, those that first lived on the earth that are dead are examined first, and eventually this judgment closes with the living. But you won't get a Historic Adventist to ever admit that the judgment of the living began in 1903 Ellen White said in Great Controversy, page 490, this is 1911 edition, but she said the same thing in 1884 GC. She said that the judgment of the dead had been going on now for 40 years, she said that in 1884. She said "soon" it would begin with the living, "none know how soon". Now I'm going to tell you, when she said that in 1884, the word "soon" does not apply to hundred and seventeen or eighteen years! The word "soon" does not work for me like that. As one reads in (Testimonies) Volume 6, which was penned in 1901, she said, "Just now as the judgment of the living is about to begin", it hadn't begun yet. 1902 she says almost the same words again, just now, it hasn't begun, it is only about to begin.

And then finally in Volume 7, page 219.02, are these words that tell that the Judgment of the Living had just begun. "The time has come when everything is to be shaken that can be shaken, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Every case is coming in review before God; He is measuring the temple and the worshipers therein." 7T 219.02

The Judgment of the living is a process rather than an event with great fanfare. See it was the Brinsmead brothers and the foolishness that they taught on this subject that diverted many Adventists from advancing with serious Bible study. Now it was Ford sitting at Brinsmead feet, and he picked up all the nonsense that they dreamed up, and now he has run through Adventism with their speculation. Coming from that brand of mindset are the ones that drew a line in the sand, and said that the judgment of the living was off in the future and when it arrived a lot of fanfare would be attached. The Ark of the Covenant would be found and all this nonsense that the Ron Wyatt crowd are in a stupor over. Go to my Website and listen to that audiotape I made years ago on the Ark of the Covenant, www. ed-white.us. Remember it was Jesus that told Daniel in Chapter 12:10 "None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand." After he told that to Daniel, then He tells him again the second time the answer to the question that Daniel asked twice. "How long shall it be to the end of time? TM 114-115. In Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a part" was Jesus' first answer. Next time He tells the answer to be 1290 days; "time, times and a part" is 1290 days! If a woman asked you what day you are going to get married, you don't say October 3rd one time, and the November the 2nd the next time. Any honorable man is going to give a good woman the same date both times. When Daniel asked about time, when it would end? Jesus gives him one date! 1290 days is the end of time! This is when God the Father says, "It is done."

Revelation 16:17 & Ezekiel 39:8. In Jesus' 2nd answer, does He give a starting point for this 1290 to begin? Yes He does, a double starting point to those who are willing to lay aside preconceived fragments of old over the hill discourses. This vital information is also available to Adventist who are now scattered/fragmented. How true, how true does the prophet know how to use the next words!! "The time has come."

 "The time has come when Jerusalem is being searched as with lighted candles. God is at work investigating character, weighing moral worth, and pronouncing decisions on individual cases. It may not be too late for those who have sinned to be zealous and repent." TM 448. See also 7A 96.

But what will the Historic Adventists out there tell you about the Judgment of The Living? They have drawn a line in the sand, placing the judgment of the living off in the future just the same as their Mother Church. They don't really come out and say anything concrete; they rather just kind of hint around about it. But I can pick up on these things that they are soft peddling, they are afraid to say anything. They don't have a message, they are playing fake it till you make it, with their memory work that was handed down to them by their Mother Church. And the Mother Church is just sitting back grinning from ear to ear saying "its time to come home children". Grab a pew, your neglected tithe envelope and never say another word until we tell you when and what to utter. "Thus "Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins." 5T 211.02

Verse 2 of Revelation 11. "But the court which is without the Temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles:" Okay, there are the wicked, they are not to be judged, "leave out". Don't measure this group; their judgment takes place during the 1000 years in heaven. How very plain is the Bible when studied in its true setting. I will keep reading. " . .. for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months." Now listen to this quote from the SOP to shed light on this verse of Scripture. I haven't remembered this quote for ages, Volume 4, page 594.03. "The church will yet see troublous times. She will prophesy in sackcloth...The Lord will have a people as true as steel, and with faith as firm as the granite rock. They are to be His witnesses in the world..."

Well there you have it, Revelation 11 language all the way when you read Revelation 11 in a future like we are told to do. She said, "read every verse of Revelation 11, it is yet to take place". Verse 3. "And I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall prophecy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." Now there are two verses right here from Scripture that are back to back that Danny Vierra put in his book, and says that it was between 538 to 1798, he would get Lawrence Nelson saying Amen. Even Ralph Larson would say "amen", John Grosboll would agree because he put it in print for his scattered/fragmented sheep to digest as nourishment and then become sickly for more spoon fed deception. Vance Ferrell would agree with these words that Danny has in print on page 23 of his book. But I'm telling you that these dates given in Revelation 11:2 & 3 are in the future just like Ellen White said it was, to be in agreement with other bible authors.

What was it that Danny Vierra said? All these 7 dates "are all the same" [538 to 1798]; but I'm here to tell you that this is shallow reasoning, plain and simple. "The church will yet see troublous times, it will prophecy in sackcloth" and that is what she says here, "And I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall prophecy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." Well now who are the two witnesses? One application was the Old and New Testament, absolutely! But for a latter day application, who does the Bible say the witnesses are? It is God's people. Let me think here, Acts 5:32, "And we are His witnesses of these things and so is also the Holy Ghost,.." Can anyone remember the nonsense that Charles Wheeling has scattered over the years as to who the two witnesses are? He says that Moses and Elijah would come down from heaven and lay dead in the street for 3 and one half days, then stand up. Stay with me now, we will soon be down to that verse and allow the bible to be its own expositor.

Verse 4-5. "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks, standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed." God is going to protect many of his people during the Loud Cry period, but many other people, many faithful people are going to die. As soon as the image to the beast is set up in place, when the law is on the record books of our nation, many of God's people are going to die. Revelation 20:4, tells you plainly how they are going to die, they are going to get their head cut off. Now I'm not making those words up, that is Scripture word for word. After the image of the beast is set up, many of Gods faithful people will beheaded. That is before the close of probation, because after the close of probation nobody will die, none of God's people. This is the teaching of the SOP. [See EW]

Okay now, listen here!! Verse 6. "These" [now who are the 'these"?] It is his witnesses; the ones that Ellen White just told us about would prophecy in sackcloth. Knowing it is fairly easy to witness today, it will be hard as soon as the image of the beast is set up during the 1260-day period in the future. I will be accused here of setting time again, but just hold on. You know what you find out after you know it all, that's the kind of knowledge that is really worth knowing! You people that print these pretty slick magazines out there on the Kansas prairie have scattered more gray paint than the U.S. Navy has done. I'm telling it to you in black and white. "These [His witnesses, His faithful people] have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will." Rev. 11:6

Well now, why in the world do you think that the people with the law on their side hate our guts? They think that we are the ones that have caused the plagues on them, why do they think that? They have seen the power that God's people have preformed before their eyes. They have seen God’s Witnesses enter into sick rooms and people get up and walk away healed, without the drug medication. I wouldn't dare get on that subject of "acute medical care", and the foolishness that is taught in Adventist circles while suppressing the true health message. The prophet says, "drugs never cure". Don't walk away from that witchcraft practice, RUN!

As we read Verse 7, we can see that this verse tells us the Loud Cry has been given, [past tense] The "witnesses have finished their testimony", they have given the Loud Cry, it has been done! They have done what God said; they went to every nook and cranny in the world. They have been picked up and transported like Philip was in the desert to be taken to just one person to give a message. They spoke in one language and it was understood by all the different dialects. God will do that when he takes the reins into his own hands, "without any human planning' TM 300. He is going to finish the work with people who appreciate it. These 1000 days of reaping, you can take it to it the trash heap, God is going to do it with His people that He can cooperate with, not those people that are bracing themselves against heavens message.

During the loud cry period these spurious ministers will come in and say, why shouldn't we know what is truth, we have been in the work all these years. They will brace themselves against it. There is a SOP quote for that almost word for word.

But I need to hurry along to get down to verse 14 where it gets even more exciting. Verse 7, "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them." Now isn't that sort of an obscure statement to say that Gods witnesses are killed? We have some symbolism here, hold on now, there is something unusual about their death isn't there?

Hold on now! [Verse 8] "And their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." Ok now let me check my memory bank here, let me give you a few quotes here. These people are not dead, this is the 144,000 and they do not die. But the Bible says there were killed, hold on. Great Controversy 628, "By condemning the people of God to death, they have as truly incurred the guilt of their blood as if it had been shed." Now does that agree with the Bible? What about Romans 8:36,"... We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter." "We are killed all the day long,..". How very plain. When the one world government gets this final death decree law signed and on the books during the sixth plague, this is the correct timing for the battle of Armageddon. God’s 144,000 people think that God has deserted them; this is the time element for Jacob’s Trouble. Before then, God's people were living calm and composed, they are even confident during the pouring out of the plagues 1 through 5, read Early Writings, page 282 for this fact. But whatever you do read all of Ezekiel 38,39:1-8, which apply to the time period for the 7 last plagues being carried out. You know one of the most marvelous thing about reading the Bible, is first of all if you figure out who is doing the talking; and then, who he is talking to, why didn't somebody tell me that when I was a boy growing up; I just read words, why didn't someone tell me to pay attention to who is doing the talking and who he is talking to???

In Ezekiel 38 & 39, it is God the Father, He is doing the talking, and He is talking to the wicked, after probation has closed. And He told the wicked, I've got a "hook in your jaw", and I want you to go down there against my people Israel, he is talking about the 144,000. And he says I want you [the wicked] to go down there and check them out, the whole universe needs to see that their character has become just like Jesus. The whole chapter reads so perfectly; oh I would just love to take you through that chapter all through 38 up to chapter 39, verses 1-8. At the end of it, it says, talking to the wicked, hey wicked I've got a hook in your jaw and I will stop you dead in your track if you attempt to lay hands on My people. It is in verses 7 & 8 that God says words, directly to this One World wicked government. "So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; [the 144,000] and I will not [let them] pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this [is] the day whereof I have spoken.”

Now to get the correct timing to prove that this is during the 6th plague [Armageddon] please look in verse 2, of chapter 39, it says while He is talking to the wicked. "I've got a hook in your jaw", look in the margin for this truth; don't use John Grosboll's New King James Version. Grab a real Bible, grab the King James, for it says: "or strike thee with six plagues", this hook has six teeth, six plagues, it is during the sixth plague that this occurs that God stops them in their tracks.

Anyway, you come over to Ezekiel 39, verse 7 & 8, and here is the way God has promised His faithful followers as how He will talk. "I will not let them pollute My holy name any more." You are not going to do it any more, 6000 years is long enough. And behold I'm going to let my people know who I am, behold it is done, "it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken." Oh, I would just love to take you through Hebrews 12:26, where God the Father has promised us that He is going to speak like this from heaven "once more". His voice also not only shakes the earth but also the heavens, the sun, moon & stars are moved out of their places. "Then the sun, moon, and stars will be moved out of their places. They will not pass away, but be shaken by the voice of God." EW 41. And so forth. And etc. Back to Revelation 11:8, but it all applies here, same thing over in Revelation 10; 1 could flip over there and show you the same exact truth is portrayed. "And their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." When they signed this law, and the ink has just begun to dry, then 3 1/2 days later it will go into effect, that is Jacob’s Trouble for the living saints. For 3 1/2 days, the 144,000 are thinking God has deserted them and that is exactly what Ellen White says it is in Early Writings, just read the pages 282-283, it says the same thing in Great Controversy.

Next is verse 9, "And they of the people and kindred's and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies ..." So all the wicked, they know they have those that disturbed their lifestyle in their grasp, thinking it will be like shooting fish in a barrel. But they can't do the killing until the law goes into effect, and you know what Early Writings says, that some of them come out ahead of time and their swords became straws, and so forth. But just like Mordecai and Queen Esther, not one person perished. Verse 10, and they "rejoiced over them, and make merry, and sent gifts to one another". Oh are they ever mocking them, if you are one of those locked up in jail, they say to those, we are going to kill you tomorrow night at midnight, you just wait, we are going to kill you, why don't you call upon your God to save you if you are so holy. Early Writings says words to this effect, why don't you just float on off to heaven you are such a holy person there behind those bars. We got you in our grasp, and you are going to die tomorrow night at midnight. But what does the next page in Early Writings say? "It was at midnight that God chose to deliver His people." God's never in a hurry, but he is always on time.

Verse 11. "And after three days and a half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them with saw them." Absolutely they stand upon their feet, why? Because they heard Gods Voice and now have a glorified body! They don't just have a shining face like Moses did when he came down from the mount; they had to put a veil over his face in order to converse with him. The 144,000, their whole body is glorified, and they stand on their feet, and what does the bible says next? "And great fear fell upon them that saw them." Absolutely!

All the fight is taken right out of the wicked when their knees become jelly. They don't feel like killing anybody after that, God the Father has spoken, the mountains are flying over their heads and being dropped into the sea. He has knocked down every building and every wall that man has ever constructed, and His Thundering voice announces the day and hour that Jesus comes.

Next verse 12. "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, 'Come up hither." Well isn't that amazing, isn't that what God told us of His activities during this time?

You need to read all the verses around Heb.12:26 where He told us about speaking from heaven -going to speak "once more".

Verse 13. "And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

Verse 14. "The second woe is past; and behold, the third woe cometh quickly." The second woe is the sixth plague; this is the timing of Jacob's Trouble, it is now all over with, the third woe cometh quickly, that is the Seventh Trumpet. What did Uriah Smith teach every Seventh-day Adventist? Every minister that has attended SDA seminaries, he told them and your minister sons plainly, that the third woe commenced in 1844.. Ellen White never did get caught up in that fiasco that Haskell, her husband and scores of other people got caught up in applying the trumpets to the past. She applied the trumpets all to the future just the way the Bible has recorded them. Her words of inspiration are like this "trumpet after trumpet is yet to sound, vial after vial is yet to be poured out". She spells it out in the same breath; she puts the trumpets and the plagues together in their rightful place before mans intrusion and meddling. Read Maranatha page 284-287, about her description of the seventh plague.

Read the letter from over in Australia in 1895, it is just plain as can be when hail began to come down as big as hen eggs. In the same breath Ellen White put the trumpets and plagues together, just where inspiration has preserved them.

Verse 15. "And the seventh angel sounded, and there were great voices in heaven, saying, 'The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever."

Seventh-day Adventists have been taught that this occurred in 1844. [See Uriah Smith's The Prophecies of Daniel & The Revelation, 538]

Ellen White says in Fundamentals of Christian Education, page 355.01. She says, "the kingdoms of this world have not yet become the kingdoms of our Lord, do not deceive yourselves".

I'm not deceived in this area; I'm trying to tell the Historic Adventist not to be either. Go out there and get a message from God’s Word, have something to say that's concrete, instead of the pabulum that you are giving everybody.

After Revelation 11:13, heaven closes off that end of the pretenses, then the bible continues telling us more about the trumpets that was interrupted in 9:21. This interruption was necessary to insert all of Revelation 10 & 11 up to verse 13, to tell us what it was that brought on this death decree against Gods witnesses, [the Loud Cry] "And the seventh angel sounded and there were great voices in heaven..." Allow me go over Revelation 10 again, about this seventh angel in verse 7. But you see I've got to go back to verse 6 where Jesus is standing there, "And sware by Him That liveth for ever and ever" and so forth. Jesus is swearing to his Father. The same thing that He is doing over in Daniel Twelve, He raises his hands to his Father and swears by Him that liveth for ever and ever.

Seventh-day Adventist pastors’ teaching is that the "him" that Jesus raises His hands to scatter His Holy people is the papacy, that is what Marian Berry teaches in her books. This is the identical same thing as Uriah Smith. That is the only message Doug Bachelor is allowed to preach, because that is what he was taught, and so forth and so forth.

The "He" is the Father, that Jesus raises his hands to, and then when it says, "he shall accomplish to scatter the power of the holy people", "when he shall accomplish to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things will be finished". The "He" is the Father, He is the one who does the scattering. For anybody to apply the word "he" to the Papacy, to me that is treason, and an insult to heaven. When Jesus raises his hand to His Father, with how much more certainty could you ask for??? The Life Giver, speaking to His Father in our behalf, and you surface readers apply that to the Papacy, that is supreme nonsense to a serious Bible believer.

Back to Revelation 11, but I need to go to Ezekiel 38 as well. Anyway, Rev. l1:15, "And the seventh angel sounded" See that, now I must return back to Revelation 10:7, "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished,.." You better believe things will be "finished" when God says "It is done," and His mighty voice knocks down every building and every wall that is standing. And everybody that is faithful, his 144,000 have a glorified body as soon as He speaks, and He raises the righteous dead since 1844, they also have a glorified body, and the Synagogue of Satan is worshiping at the Saints feet for 45 days. That is Revelation 2:9, and Revelation 3:9, how much plainer do you want it?

A Word to the Little Flock tells you who these people are that are worshiping at the saints feet, she says it is "professed Seventh-day Adventist that have fallen away, and crucified to them selves the Son of God a fresh". A Word to the Little Flock, page 12. How much plainer do you want it?

Revelation 11, verse 16. "And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God." Hey, these are our kinfolks up there; the 24 elders and the four beasts are from this earth. [Rev. 5:9] They are the ones that Jesus took to heaven with him in A.D. 31.

Oh, I'd just love to talk to you about the great multitude in Revelation 7; the nonsense that is taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Evangelists on this subject is on the level of the secret rapture doctrine that the mainline evangelicals teach. Their current message on the great multitude vs. the 144,000 is also sorta "secret" as well. From the 1840s to 1931 not one Advent believer ever heard of such twisting of scripture. These hirelings are paid to suggest that the 144,000 will be sealed first and then they convert the great multitude of Rev.7:9. This error is Shepherd Rod teaching through and through! You know I was reading on the internet the other day that somebody said something about the 7 Trumpets, and mentioned a SDA minister; his teaching was different from those that sign his paycheck. He was told point blank, you better teach the 7 Trumpets the way we teach them, or you can go find yourself another job. Isn't that amazing to have such controlling power, "you teach it the way we tell you to teach it or find yourself another job. We have the purse strings buddy, we will show you where the door is".

Verse 17-18, "Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, [these are people talking] Which art, and wast, and art to come: because Thou hast taken to Thee Thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, [and he is reiterating the things that took place on this earth] and Thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead that they should be judged,.."

You better believe it is time for them to be judged, it is the Executive part of the judgment, "every man’s sword is against his brother". They will then start killing one another, you see the hail hasn't arrived yet of 86# per drop. What structure that wasn't knocked down by God's Thundering Voice, the hail during the seventh plague is going to finish it off and lay flat with the ground. But remember there is a group of people that "will desire to die, but death shall flee from them". Rev. 9:6. Would this be someone who knew truth and failed to walk in it? I think so.

Oh, just look at these beautiful words here in verse 18. "The time of the dead that they should be judged [and so forth], and give reward unto thy servants the prophets and the saints, and them that fear his name, small and great and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." It is absolutely necessary for God to put a stop to those with power to destroy the earth. Because just as soon as man’s probation closes, different nations of the world will launch atomic weapons on one another. Because every nation is going to start firing weapons of mass destruction, that's all the plagues are, God doesn't pour the plagues out of the sky on the people, he is going to let men do it to themselves. I could go through each one of these trumpets and plagues and show to you that each plague is a natural occurring thing, God doesn't pour out the plagues on us from the sky.

Let me give you two or three quotes off the top of my head, check me out here. Last Day Events, page 242.01, "I was shown that the judgments of God would not come directly out from the Lord upon them, but in this way..." and so forth.

The first plague of the "great and grievous sore" is nothing other than the radiation burns from these weapons of mass destruction. Each one of the following plagues, man is causing it all! Absolutely!

Now what is going to happen next, verse 19? "And the Temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His Temple the ark of His testament..."

Isn't that amazing, isn't that when you look up in the sky and see those 10 rules of conduct?

Look in The Great Controversy and read those pages there, when those two tables up in the sky open up and in the fire traces with pen word for word of the Ten Commandments. Absolutely. And the temple of God was open in heaven, "and there was seen in heaven the ark of His testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."

You know the 86# per drop kind of hail, absolutely, you know when this occurs, it is during the7th Trumpet/Plague.

Speaking of the Ark of his Testament there in verse 19, it show us plainly when it will be brought forth, not on the schedule of the Ron Wyatt disciples. This man claimed to have found the Ark, that was 15-20 years ago, why didn't he produce it after such a length of time? There is a reason this Ark that was hidden in a cave will never be found; it is not on this earth any more! The Ark was taken to heaven, page 32 & 33 of Early Writings, says exactly where it is. She says that the Ark is now in heaven, with the pot of manna and the Aaron's rod that budded. If I tell you that the car is now in front of the house; that means at one time it wasn't there. It means it was either in the garage or in the driveway. But the car it is now in front of the house. Ellen White says that the Ark, she saw it, the veil was lifted, she went into the Most Holy Place, she saw the Ark, she saw Aaron's rod that had budded, she saw the pot of manna, she saw the tables of stone, and then on the next page, Early Writings 33, she says it is now in heaven.

I'm sure that scoffers are eager to say, "that is not the earthly, that is the heavenly Ark". Ok scoffer, tell me, was there a heavenly pot of Manna & Aaron’s rod? Of course not! Look in Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing, page 109, she plainly tells you that the Angels in heaven, "they marveled that there was even such a law written down". The Law is a transcript of God's character. And God doesn't keep His angels in the dark with them not knowing that such a law was "written down", and angels are not in a stupor. Do you want more of the Ron Wyatt nonsense? For anybody to believe that those wagon wheels from those chariots lost in the Red Sea could still be visible to the naked eye and see the round circles and spokes in the wheels after 3500 years is absurd. I believe that you could take the Titanic out there, and drop it off in the Red Sea and after 3500 years there wouldn't even be any rust remaining. And I thought chariot wheels was made out of wood, if they were all iron, how in the world could horses pull them? To my knowledge wood is supposed to float, oh boy, what nonsense people are standing in line to be fooled by a con artist.

In closing let me say again, Daniel 12 is unlocked by a close study of Revelation 10 & 11. Ezekiel 38, 39:1-8 is an account of God the Father talking to the wicked after the close of probation during the 7 Last Plagues. Revelation 8:5. is one account of the close of probation when Jesus throws down the censer. So in Revelation 8:6 gives another account of the beginning & happenings during the 7 Last Plagues. So it would be wise on your part if those leg irons are still around your ankles, to make a clean break from leaning on man’s teaching. Absent your selves from all known error, knowing that, "Every person who cherishes a known error, in faith or practice, is under the power of sorcery, and is practicing sorcery upon others. Satan employs him to mislead other souls. [ST 05-18-82.18]

On my website there is a dress rehearsal manual that gives an account of minute detail, words of "confession" that will be uttered during the 5th through the 7th Plague. Please. Please, don't allow these words to be your words. www. ed-white.us.  Also, a Study of the 144,000. Also, a Last day Event Chart.

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